# each question worth X points regardless of first or second attempt

By
Kelly Simon

Scenario: the quiz has 5 questions worth 10 points each. The learner has two chances with each question.

As I have it set up now,

if the learner gets the question right the first time, he earns 10/10 points.

if the learner misses the question the first time, he earns 10/20 points.

if the learner misses the question both times, he earns 0/20 points.

I would like for the question to be worth 10 points no matter what. (In other words, on the 2nd attempt, he would earn 10/0 points or 0/0 points instead of 10/10 or 0/10.)

Suggestions? Thanks in advance for any guidance!

## 2 Replies

Hi Kelly,

Out of the box, it's not currently possible to accomplish that. However, you may want to play with duplicate questions to see if that gives you the result you're looking for. For example, for the first question, you'd duplicate it. Then, on the duplicate question, you would make the right answer worth less points. It's not a perfect solution, but it may suffice for what you're trying to accomplish.

Hi Brian, I went down that rabbit hole a while back, and that approach won't work. The problem is that QM totals the points from all of the questions -- both the original and the duplicate questions in order to calculate the percentage (awarded points divided by total points).

So if we started with a plain 5 question quiz, point value 10 and 10 points awarded for a correct answer, a perfect score would be 50 points total and 50 points awarded.

But if you add duplicate questions at half-value or 5 points each and 5 points awarded for a correct answer, the total points for the quiz becomes 75 instead of 50. Now, if you answer each question correctly on the first try, you're still awarded a total of 50 points out of a possible 75 for a score of 66.6%.

The conclusion I came to is that the only way to make this scheme work is to be able to set a passing score in quiz properties by points awarded instead of by percentage. That's be a neat trick. Given a quiz where passing is 40 out of 50 points (80%), if passing was set at an absolute 40 points instead of a percentage, then a person could for example get 30 points for 3 correct answers on the first try, and half credit for getting the other two questions correct on the second try for 10 points -- totalling 40 and a passing grade.

Does this all sound convoluted? Yes! But it'd still be a neat feature.